Nous devons utiliser une tierce personne comme témoin. (We must use a third party as a witness.)This example contradicts the rule immediate preceding it:
You use tiers (masculine) or tierce (feminine) instead of troisième when expressing a fraction, a portion of something (= one third of), as opposed to a rank or an order (= third out of).
A third party follows the some nomenclature as the third person. It is not a third of a party as if someone was having their legs chopped off. A third party to an agreement is anyone who isn't one of the signatories (ie., 'you and me'.)
It seems therefore to be an exception to the rule stated, rather than an example of the rule, as it is presented.
addendum;
This also appears to apply to "third-world", as there is a first world (NATO/OTAN countries), second world (communist bloc countries), and third-world (non-aligned countries).
The rule given in this lesson also seems to conflict with Cécile's comment on https://french.kwiziq.com/questions/view/in-the-example-j-ai-bu-un-tiers-de-la-bouteille-the-audio-speaker-is-a-woman-and-the-word-bottle-is where she says: "The adjective 'tiers/tierce' will only be used in certain expressions...It has very limited use...'.
I interpret this as 'the adjective "tiers/teirce" is only used in special cases, which you will just have to learn'.
-cer verbs become ç before -ons
Is there any exceptions?
Which is better to use:
Vous avez un chat?
OR
Est-ce que vous avez un chat?
Why prefer one over the other?
Shouldn't there be an accent above the 'i' in apparaitront?
I was marked incorrect for writing "apparaîtront".
Combien a coute construire la tour Eiffel?
This example contradicts the rule immediate preceding it:
You use tiers (masculine) or tierce (feminine) instead of troisième when expressing a fraction, a portion of something (= one third of), as opposed to a rank or an order (= third out of).
A third party follows the some nomenclature as the third person. It is not a third of a party as if someone was having their legs chopped off. A third party to an agreement is anyone who isn't one of the signatories (ie., 'you and me'.)
It seems therefore to be an exception to the rule stated, rather than an example of the rule, as it is presented.
addendum;
This also appears to apply to "third-world", as there is a first world (NATO/OTAN countries), second world (communist bloc countries), and third-world (non-aligned countries).
The rule given in this lesson also seems to conflict with Cécile's comment on https://french.kwiziq.com/questions/view/in-the-example-j-ai-bu-un-tiers-de-la-bouteille-the-audio-speaker-is-a-woman-and-the-word-bottle-is where she says: "The adjective 'tiers/tierce' will only be used in certain expressions...It has very limited use...'.
I interpret this as 'the adjective "tiers/teirce" is only used in special cases, which you will just have to learn'.
Why "I would make to build" je ferais construire" instead of "I would build" je construirais
Or otherwise
je ne veux pas du tout lait ?
does the 'du tout' cancel out the de ?? (normal sentence: je ne veux pas de lait)
also regarding verbs that need prepositions before the infinitive...
je ne te permets pas du tout de venir ici
or
je ne te demande pas du tout de me voir
J'ai sorti la poubelle. In this case there is No agreement, and avoir is used with a verb that usually uses etre. Could you please explain what grammar is applied in such cases, and/or direct me to a lesson on this subject? Thanks
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I am confused.. why the “except” if those countries and continents are feminine.. if the except means they are masculine, the (all of them are feminine)” makes no sense!
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